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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-18-2017, 02:53 AM Thread Starter
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Hi, ladies. Iíve decided to write here because I need someone to help me understand what to do further. Iím 37 years old, and now Iím having a very tough PCOS. I was diagnosed when I was in my early twenties. When I was 28, I underwent a successful treatment and gave birth to my lovely son. However, it was the only time I got pregnant. Now Iím married for the second time. My second husband is 5 years younger than me, and he dreams about having a baby son or a baby daughter. Weíve been trying to TTC for nearly 3 years, but our result was BFN. I had already consulted my gyny and passed all necessary tests. She advises us to IVF with donor egg to get better results because of my bad anti-muller test. Actually, weíve contacted Biotexcom. Itís situated in Kiev, the capital city. Weíve chosen this clinic because it we found loads of favorable feedbacks about its services in other sites. However, after our first visit to it, I had more questions than answers. Firstly, the clinic turned to be very tiny. Itís situated in a small private mansion. It was a little bit surprising, because I thought that the clinic would be much bigger. Secondly, we visited it several times, and both times I was extremely overcrowded. When we paid our first visit, the clinicís Click here to enlargeistrator told us that they had too many visitors that day. She offered us either to wait nearly three hours or come the following day. She added that it would be nice if we came early in the morning, because we would have more chances to visit a fertility specialist thenÖ They do have so many patients, but why donít they organize their work properly??? Maybe, itís a peculiarity of the Ukrainian NHSÖ. We visited Biotexcom for the second time the following day, and again it was overcrowded, although we came at 8 a.m. The clinicís Click here to enlargeistrator told us that they were going to open three more branch offices to organize the clinicís work properly, but she didnít tell us the time when these offices would be open. Overall, we liked the fertility specialist, weíve consulted. She looked very positive, but, unfortunately, we didnít get the opportunity to talk with her in a relaxed atmosphere. When entered the doctorís office and started to talk with the doctor, the door opened several times and the junior medical staff came in to ask the doctor about something. The doctor also had several phone calls, and she answered to them!!! Now I have a question: if the clinic has so many patients, but canít organize its work properly, does it mean that itís a good one???
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-26-2017, 07:36 AM
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Hi, hun. The things youíve written about the first clinic sound not good. They shouldnít have made you wait so much time in the queue. For me,reputable institutions donít act like this. If I were in your shoes, I would quit them as soon as possible!!! In case, youíre still interested in them, you may check their success rates. I would also advise to search some information about them on various fertility forums.
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The thing is the clinic seems to be a reputable one. We found quite a lot of feedback about the clinic on various fertility forums. Most of these feedbacks were favorable ones. Their former patients praise the fertility specialists who work there. However, some of them also complain on the large queues and unfriendly staff. Weíve also chosen this clinic because it has very reasonable prices. In addition, the egg donation package includes loads of favorable services. These were the main reasons why weíve chosen them.
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Hi! I think you should check the way theyíre going to choose an egg donor for you. Itís vital to do this as you must be totally sure that the oocytes youíre going to use for your ED program are of high quality. It will be nice if your egg donor will be a young and healthy woman. I would also ask the fertility specialists to check her heredity. Hun, trust your gut and youíll see what to do further. Good luck! X
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We have to sign up a contract with the clinic. In this contract you may read some information about the criteria the clinicís specialists take into consideration while choosing egg donors for their clients. Firstly, the woman should be a young one. She must be 18-25 years old to be accepted as an egg donor. Secondly, she must be totally healthy. The egg donor should also be a mum of at least one healthy child. The clinicís specialists will study the donorís genealogical tree to check her heredity. This is how the clinicís specialists select egg donors for their clients.
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Sounds great!!! But how are they actually going to find a donor for you. I mean will you be able to see a donorís photo? As far as I know, most of fertility clinics provide their clients only with a donorís profile without any photos. What about the clinic youíve got interested in?
P.S. I think you should also contact an attorney before doing anything. In some countries egg donation isnít totally anonymous. What about Ukraine?
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-26-2017, 02:06 PM Thread Starter
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When we were going to visit the clinic for the first time, we sent them a short description of the woman who would suit us as an egg donor. We included such details as height, weight, egg and hair color. Our program manager told us that the clinic has a large database of egg donors. Theyíre going to use a special software to find an appropriate donor for us. If we sign up a contract with them, weíll be able to see the donorís 3D photo. In Ukraine, egg donation is totally anonymous. None will access any data about an egg donor, an egg recipient or the child conceived with the help of donor oocytes.
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Sounds great!!! However, will they charge any additional fees for their services. I know that some fertility clinics do this. They may ask you do some additional tests to earn some money. Does Biotexcom do the same?
P.S. If I were in your shoes, I would check everything carefully. Just wish you good luck in your ED journey, hun!
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I donít think the clinic would charge any additional fees. We have to sign up a contract with them. According to this contract, the clinic will charge only a fixed sum. It means no additional fees will be charged from us. As weíre going to book several shots, our payment will be divided into several installments. For us, itís really very handy. We may make the payment either in cash or via a bank transfer.
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Itís great that they charge only a fixed sum. At least, youíll be able to plan your expenses. Hun, arenít you afraid to go to Ukraine. As far as I know, this country is at war now. Is it safe to go there now?
P.S. For me, itís not the best place for cycling. At any rate, I wish you good luck in your ED journey.
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When we were considering Ukraine as our final destination, we also hesitated at first. We knew that the country is a poor one. However, we decided to visit it because the reproductive health service is well-developed there. Ukrainian clinics seemed to be rather reputable. They also donít charge much for their services. These were the main reasons why weíve chosen Biotexcom. The clinic is situated in Kiev. Itís the capital city of Ukraine. When we came to Kiev, we were met at the airport by the driver. He took us to the clinic where we met our program coordinator and the RE. It was really very handy as we didnít have to search the clinic in the city. The clinicís representatives also provided us with a comfortable apartment not far from the city center. They even provided us with free meals. Every time, when we needed to visit the clinic, they sent a driver with a car to give us a lift. Our program manager was our interpreter. She followed us when we visited the clinic and helped us to communicate with the staff. They even organized a short tour around the city to help us spend our free time. It was so exciting. These were the things we really liked about them.
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Hi! Firstly, Iím really sorry to hear about your struggles of getting pregnant. When you have PCOS, you donít ovulate. Even if you do this, your oocytes are of bad quality. These are the main reasons why ladies with PCOS canít conceive. I used to have an ovarian drilling the previous year. We tried to conceive naturally the whole year, but it didnít work with us. Now, weíre pondering of trying DE IVF.
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Hi, there! JStar, could you please share the list of the tests Biotexcom require for their ED IVF? The thing is I also got interested in this clinic. We plan to visit them next month. This is the main reason why Iím so curious to get feedbacks about this clinic. How many times did they require you to visit the clinic? When did you have to sign up a contract?
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