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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 02-28-2014, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
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I will probably never understand

the need to whelp at home, on your own expensive sheets and mattress, but given the outcome of this study, I can make even less sense of it:


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/risk-st...ry?id=20271763



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That's what happens when anyone can call themselves a midwife and regardless of training or actual certification think they are qualified to catch babies.
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Heres a newer study but I don't necessarily agree that homebirth is safe bc birth attendant competency is paramount.
http://www.mana.org/blog/home-birth-safety-outcomes
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can't say that I really approve of your source there, I mean, with regard to providing a biased argument and all.



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Click here to enlarge Hester. I had a lovely hospital experience and I didn't have to clean anything up and I didn't have everyone I know trying to swing by my house while I was whelping either.


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I'm scarred permanently by the "dirty kiddie pool in the living room" birthing pictures. I prefer a nice hospital with qualified medical professionals. Click here to enlarge
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can't say that I really approve of your source there, I mean, with regard to providing a biased argument and all.

The blog referenced a peer reviewed study.
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I was fine with my hospital births other than the navy one for first child-that experience was awful.

I think home birth can be safe with a qualified attendant and proximity to a hospital for an emergency-although not for everyone.

I think some of the uber crunchy people out there are overly anti hospital though-I think they have an irrational fear and outlook of hospital deliveries.

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I'm scarred permanently by the "dirty kiddie pool in the living room" birthing pictures. I prefer a nice hospital with qualified medical professionals. Click here to enlarge


Click here to enlarge. The thought of having to deal with the wading pool filled with afterbirth gazpacho in the living room was enough to get me to decide on hospital deliveries.

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I don't mind home birthing, but of course the population of people who would prefer a home birth includes a lot of kooks who wouldn't go to a hospital or agree to intervention, no matter what. Their birth experience is somehow more important than the health of the child or something. I guess I can't really claim to understand their reasoning. Anyway, that probably throws the numbers off a bit. But a ten times higher stillbirth rate is still pretty compelling.
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That's what happens when anyone can call themselves a midwife and regardless of training or actual certification think they are qualified to catch babies.
Click here to enlarge exactly. studies that compare hospital births to homebirth attended by licensed, qualified midwives show there is not a significant difference in either mortality or complications.

Obviously, homebirth is not a viable option for everyone, and even if you're at very low risk, it's fine to say it's not something you'd be comfortable with. but the study in the op makes it seem as though people who do their research and choose homebirth are always making a terrible, dangerous choice, and that's simply not the case.

And for what it's worth, my midwives cleaned up everything afterwards. I swear, after A's birth, my bathroom was the cleanest it ever was Click here to enlarge And I got to sleep in my own bed, and my doula brought me tom kah gai.
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the thought of birthing in any home i've ever lived in makes my skin crawl.

not that i birthed anything, except an adoption certificate. Click here to enlarge


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I guess I'm old school and had too many labour/delivery problems, because I wouldn't feel my babe was safe being born at home if I was whelping now. Also, there are lovely birthing centres in hospitals these days, and they leave you and your baby alone. Not to mention the fact that they cut you loose the next day! I wouldn't chance it.

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interestingly, the article which apparently you didn't read, or maybe you just disagree with, I don't know, says this:

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Grunebaum said that the study associated risk with the location of a planned birth, rather than the credentials of the person delivering the baby.
It isn't about the training/credentials/certification of the cnm attending the delivery at home, it is the lack of accessibility to teams of specialists and equipment that increases the negative outcome in those births where something does goes wrong.

Anyway, can't somebody bring you a bowl of soup at the hospital? You say that like that is something you can't get at the hospital Click here to enlarge



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I'm coming from the other direction having had 4 lovely hospital births that were pretty much complication free. They were peaceful and I completely fell in love with almost every single nurse I came in contact with. Click here to enlarge. It was great to come home feeling relatively well rested and taken care of, but I wouldn't have wanted to birth there.

That coupled with the response I got when I approached dh with the suggestion during my first pregnancy ("Are you shitting me? No." Click here to enlarge) pretty much sealed the deal.

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You can get soup delivered to a hospital.
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My husband brought me Ethiopian food in the hospital the morning after I delivered. Click here to enlarge During labor I was eating potato chips and reading a trashy novel.

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It does not appear that the study controlled for intended home birth versus accidental home birth. Am I wrong?

If it didn't….that's, uh, a pretty big confound Click here to enlarge
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Well I had a lovely home birth and I didnt clean up a thing. I had people for that. Click here to enlarge Personally, I would rather birth at home on inexpensive sheets than on hospital sheets that have been pooped on by thousands of people with god knows what. If that's the criteria we're going by. Click here to enlarge
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I would always prefer to birth at home with a skilled provider.
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