She is too old,

She is racist,

at least she was back in the 2008 on the threads here, and people really wanted John Edwards as her VP. She will be a strong candidate.

Meh. I hope she runs a better campaign than last time because holy fuck, it was a train wreck.

You guys have NO other choice. If a republican wins, you will go to war with Iran, women will continue to lose rights in the name of God, the four or five aging Supreme Court judges will be appointed by a lunatic right wing religious zealot, things will go to hell in a hand basket.
I read ska quote that said something about it being better to vote for someone who stands for 70% of what you stand for than allowing someone who stands for 10% of what you stand for.
I think Republicans are banking on voters to abstain because they don't love Clinton or to vote independent because they would prefer Warren. This is truly a case of every vote that is not for Clinton is a vote for the Republicans who don't have anyone sane to run at all.


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ugh. the facebook shit has already started. i will probably have to put family and some friends on a limited access list for a while.

All of this. We have no other choice.

I am lukewarm at best but fear is a powerful motivator and I've seen what the Ted Cruz/Greg Abbott/That other nutbag who is our Lt. Gov right now whose name I forget are capable of doing and there is no way anyone needs that at the national level.

But I am still stunned that the country did what it did in 2000 so I am no predictor.

OTOH, my daughter is excited and wishes she were old enough to vote. She yelled at me publicly in the 2008 caucus (she was only 7) for standing in the Obama line because he wasn't the girl.

Haha. You're such an alarmist! Settle down.

I can't believe your only choice is Hillary. And you're fighting SO hard to put this war monger in office. You all complained and complained about McCain being too old and here you are. Oh and her husband cheated on her and it's all just so golly gee, that's ok! Aren't you all the FIRST ones to tell others to leave their husbands right now!!! Add her forward right red arrow and her SCOOBY cartoon van. It all just makes me laugh and laugh at all the hypocrisy.

There have been republican presidents (even religious ones!!) before, there will be again. Every generation always thinks they are one generation from the brinks of destruction.

And yet, here we still are...

Um if Obama were to run again (if it were legal) do you really think we would not go to war with Iran? The dude LOVES war just like a Bush.

I read that same article and I find it hard to believe that Hillary is the ONLY valid choice and NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER WIN EVER.

I mean did anyone think Obama was going to get his momentum started with Iowa in 2008?

Calm yourselves, people; it's a long way from here to November 2016.

You are absolutely correct, and that is because it would be about politics. I have always thought you can tell what a President really believes in in his second term - when he doesn't need to run again.

AM talkshow talked about this being a historic moment.

If Hillary is the best the Dems can come up with and Jeb the best the Repubes can come up with the nation is going to hell in a hand basket and I am not going to enable it by voting for either of them

I mean, pretend you are babysitting a little kid and he refuses to eat the dinner you cook and says he will only eat a bowl of powdered sugar or a bowl of regular sugar. Are you gonna go, OK well at least the powdered sugar isn't crunchy on your teeth so here you go!

crunchy sugar is way better. duh.

Pure stuff from the Sugar McCane, the other stuff Palins comparison. Too 2008.

Until we stop caving in and voting for the lesser of two douche bags, we are never going to get better candidates.