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post #21 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-03-2015, 08:47 AM
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So based on the fact that Syed and his wife left behind a six-month baby I'm now honestly wondering if some very extreme variety of post-partum psychosis was involved. Or if untreated PPD made her more willing to join him in whatever the hell this was.

Though to add to the weirdness, apparently the guns were all bought four years ago: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-bern...ought-legally/ and Syed and his wife have only been married for like two years?

I have to say though, this pretty conclusively demonstrates that the Scott Adams' asshole theory is bullshit. (After some previous recent mass shooting, the guy who draws Dilbert talked about how men commit shootings because they can't get some woman to have sex with them, so ladies, you should all be fucking the losers of the world as a public service. This guy may have not gotten laid recently -- my husband and I weren't getting it on a lot when we had a six-month old in the house -- but he was certainly getting laid at some point.)

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And, I mean, maybe it was political terrorism.

But holy crap, if you've got a stockpile of very large guns, ammunition, fake bombs, and tactical clothing, you're willing to die, and your wife is willing to help you out, and you are an actual government employee, and you want to commit bloody mayhem against the Great Satan because you're a fanatic Islamist, and the best you can come up with is shooting up your own office Christmas party... I mean, yes, he killed a shitload of people but that is some seriously loser-ish political terrorism right there.

If he left a manifesto, it hasn't turned up. When you shoot your own coworkers everyone's going to assume it's personal; literally the only reason anyone's even considering the possibility of political terrorism here is that the killers were Muslim.
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P.S. I am really glad today for Sybermoms where I can air comments like this and it's at least marginally less inappropriate than airing them on Facebook.

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His own father said he became super religious a couple of years ago, around the time he married his stupid fucking wife.

Post partum psychosis? Seriously? That is absolutely ridiculous. She did what he told her to because she is a super religious female and thought he was her ruler.


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Oh and you don't have full body armor and that kind of arsenal and pipe bombs unless you are a fucking terrorist.


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My sil is a photojournalist from San Bernardino if you want to follow some of the vigils and other happenings. jcmaherphoto on instagram @jcmaherphoto on Twitter.


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And, I mean, maybe it was political terrorism.

But holy crap, if you've got a stockpile of very large guns, ammunition, fake bombs, and tactical clothing, you're willing to die, and your wife is willing to help you out, and you are an actual government employee, and you want to commit bloody mayhem against the Great Satan because you're a fanatic Islamist, and the best you can come up with is shooting up your own office Christmas party... I mean, yes, he killed a shitload of people but that is some seriously loser-ish political terrorism right there.

If he left a manifesto, it hasn't turned up. When you shoot your own coworkers everyone's going to assume it's personal; literally the only reason anyone's even considering the possibility of political terrorism here is that the killers were Muslim.
This is very similar to what my dh said about it last night. If terrorism was the goal, it is a real fail.

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I think they thought they would get away with it and move on to the next location or something. They didn't want anyone to know who they were.


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I'm already seeing memes connecting this to the WAR ON CHRISTMAS

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Well that answers it.


http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-wo...e47949060.html


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Cam, this obviously happened because Starbucks didn't put any Pagan Christmas trees on their red cups this year. Click here to enlarge


ďI donít know why we donít create some sort of system where we could train [Syrian refugees] to then go back to their own country and then fight for that country. Doesnít somebody have to stay in the Middle East and make the Middle East a better place to live?Ē

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Female San Bernardino attacker Tashfeen Malik pledged her allegiance to Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdad on Facebook as she carried out a deadly shooting spree with her husband, according to CNN.

U.S. officials told the cable network on Friday that Malik posted the message on an account under a different name.


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Pictures of the inside of their house. They did a good job of appearing to be normal American Muslims all while building pipe bombs as their baby played in the bouncy thing.He was born here. No way to vet that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...killed-14.html


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But holy crap, if you've got a stockpile of very large guns, ammunition, fake bombs, and tactical clothing, you're willing to die, and your wife is willing to help you out, and you are an actual government employee, and you want to commit bloody mayhem against the Great Satan because you're a fanatic Islamist, and the best you can come up with is shooting up your own office Christmas party... I mean, yes, he killed a shitload of people but that is some seriously loser-ish political terrorism right there.
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That's pretty much what I said to my husband. He couldn't have found a restaurant, mall, movie theatre, or at least a government office he wasn't working for? When you shoot up your fellow employees, it looks more like you've lost it and have a workplace grudge than you are trying to make a political-religious point. Very weird choice of target.
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Some are speculating that this wasn't the attack they had planned and that he sort of blew his stack at the Jewish guy at work and decided to go shoot the place up but that they had something larger in mind. The amount if pathetically built pipe bombs they had at their apartment shows they had other things in mind.


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where is the 3rd shooter?
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where is the 3rd shooter?
I thought the potential 3rd shooter had been confirmed as someone who found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time and wisely ran away from the shooting?
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Usually during any chaotic active shooting there are claims of multiple shooters. 1 shooter? There are usually 2 reported. So 2 shooters means 3 reported is hardly out of the ordinary.

I'm just amazed we have 28 people gunned down and we have to wait and see if it is ISIS or disgruntled employee, or mentally ill wack-a-doo.
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You know you're an ineffective terrorist when it takes a few days for anyone to realise you were going d
Trying to terrorise them.
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Right?!?

I mean, the more that comes out about this the more it seems like there probably was a terrorist motive, but this was weirdly ineffective terrorism given the body count.

Workplace shootings are awful but most of us aren't afraid of our coworkers. It's much more unnerving when someone shoots up a mall or restaurant than when someone shoots up their own workplace, even if the body count isn't as high.

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